GDG- -Battlefield Tour Guides

CWMHTours at CWMHTours at
Thu Jan 26 18:59:57 CST 2012

O tay!
A  Loyal Neo-Anti Unionist,

In a message dated 1/26/2012 7:57:41 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
lawrence at writes:

Esteemed  GDG Member Contributes:
Hook Gettysburg battlefield 
Guided have always  been one of the backbones of this group. Whether  
people think it is fair  or not we will not have criticism of them here

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On Jan 26, 2012, at 4:59 PM, "CWMHTours at"  <CWMHTours at> wrote:

> Esteemed GDG Member  Contributes:
> After overnight contemplation Sherri I think you've gone  off  half 
> and loaded for bear.
> Butr  you've misread my posts, which is odd because I don't  usually have 
> problem with clarity.  
> I have NEVER ever made  a detrimental comment about the  tourists 
>  Gettysburg.  You have apparently conjured that up out of  whole  clothe 
> you are just plain wrong.
> I did, and do  believe that most of the LBGs I've had on my  buses were 
>  outstanding.  A couple were and there are guides I've  met up there  
> just plain astound me.  I love Wayne Mott.    I  will keep repeating that 
> you  because it just  is.  That's my  opinion and I don't usually come by 
>  opinions lightly.  There is usually  reason for them.  Usually  
> experience.  I've had several  dozen over the  years.
> My big stink was the one guide who wouldn't talk  about  Gettysburg while 
> were on the battlefield.
> If you came to DC and were on a tour driving by the Capital or   the 
> House wouldn't you WANT me to talk about those instead of  somewhere  
like say 
> Antietam?
> I shared the  story partly out of light humour for people in  the room as 
>  is one of my more unpleasant experiences in 20 years of  guiding.   Why 
> wouldn't stop talking about Sickles and Key I don't know   but I 
> asked/told him to talk about the  battlefield.
> And if you are new to guiding it may behoove you  to listen to  the 
> experienced veteran guides.  You might  learn stuff from us.  When  I get 
> people who know  more than me I usually try to ask lots of questions  and 
>  their brains.  And not resent them for opinions I don't agree   with.
> You will find, once you start guiding that the quality  of your  tourists 
> going to vary widely.
> You  may want to ask some of the senior guides up there and try  to  
> With the kids the only difference between a "good"  group and a  "bad" 
> is the adults.  If there are adults  with the group who really  care 
about the 
> kids then the kids pay  attention and have good manners.  If  you don't 
> any  caring responsible adults with the group the kids will have  no 
>  manners,  will talk loudly constantly, throw pitballs, etc. and   
generally make 
> your life a nightmare.
> I  love  Catholic and religious schools.   The  kids are great.   Private 
> schools are wonderful too.  My favorite are  the  Boy Scouts.  They are 
so cool. 
> You'll have no trouble at all  with  them.
> But the other groups....   Jeez  Sherri, good luck,  you'll find yourself 
> shouting into the mike  because you can't hear yourself and  no one payin 
> attention  and you willl be hating life until you can get out of  there.
> I send these groups up to Gettysburg after I tour with them in   DC and 
> only feel sorry for the LBGs that get them.  Don't  listen to  me-  go 
> to the senior LBGs- they'll tell  you.
> And the tourists in DC.  When I talk about the  Civil War  and Lincoln I 
> questions like "Which side  won?  The East or the  West?"   You just drop 
>  your jaw in amazement at how little  Americans know about their  
> They think the President lives in the   Capitol.
> Did you ever see the bit on Jay Leno where he goes  out and  asks people 
> the street about current events and they  just don't know what  he's 
> about?
> There  are a LOT of people who  can't put the American Revolution or the  
> Civil War in the right century, much  less the right  decade.
> Any real analysis of the American Education system  will put us  way 
> nearly every European country, Japan and  even Communist  China.
> If you want to get mad about it  and resent me for sharing my  
> with the tourists in  here I don't know what to tell you.  I  would like 
> think  that you have more important things in your life to get all  
>  kerfluffled about than my hogwash.
> There is one person in  here that I delete when I see his name  in here 
> only see his  posts when they are part of someone else's  thread.
> You  may want to keep yourself from getting so upset by just  deleting me 
> when you see my stuff come up.
> But if I were you I'd  try to learn from experienced guides and  try to 
> upset about  more important things.
> Your Friend-
>  Peter   
> In a message dated 1/25/2012  2:06:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
> sherri410 at  writes:
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> Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
> I  truly resent the  fact that Peter has to make so many negative 
> about the tourists or  customers that come to Gettysburg. Also  as a 
> Battlefield Guide  Candidate I also resent the way  he makes it sound 
> Gettysburg guides. I  have worked my  butt off to get to this point and 
> what it takes to become   a guide. I have watched many friends ahead of 
> work hard. You have  to know  about the Civil War and everything 
Gettysburg so 
> it's  not a popularity  contest. It's about having the knowledge and then 
> showing you can put a tour  together that the general public can  enjoy 
> hopefully learn something. This  isn't a college  class. This is a 
vacation trip 
> where you should be able to   learn, enjoy and not made to feel stupid. 
To be 
> honest, I hope I  NEVER EVER go  on a tour with you Peter and am 
> you  still work at whatever you do.  You seem like a miserable person who 
> nothing nice to say about the people  who are paying you.  Instead of 
> them stupid, may
> be you should   appreciate the fact that they want to learn and yes, some 
> want to  learn more  than others. People should be treated with respect 
and not  
> made fun of  constantly. I'm sure you have a few that may be  comical but 
> call all  tourists that is downright mean.   Again, I haven't posted here 
> a long  time and it's because of  people like  you.
> Sherri
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