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Thu Jan 26 17:59:13 CST 2012
After overnight contemplation Sherri I think you've gone off half cocked
and loaded for bear.
Butr you've misread my posts, which is odd because I don't usually have a
problem with clarity.
I have NEVER ever made a detrimental comment about the tourists visiting
Gettysburg. You have apparently conjured that up out of whole clothe and
you are just plain wrong.
I did, and do believe that most of the LBGs I've had on my buses were not
outstanding. A couple were and there are guides I've met up there that
just plain astound me. I love Wayne Mott. I will keep repeating that for
you because it just is. That's my opinion and I don't usually come by my
opinions lightly. There is usually reason for them. Usually hard-earned
experience. I've had several dozen over the years.
My big stink was the one guide who wouldn't talk about Gettysburg while we
were on the battlefield.
If you came to DC and were on a tour driving by the Capital or the White
House wouldn't you WANT me to talk about those instead of somewhere like say
I shared the story partly out of light humour for people in the room as it
is one of my more unpleasant experiences in 20 years of guiding. Why he
wouldn't stop talking about Sickles and Key I don't know but I repeatedly
asked/told him to talk about the battlefield.
And if you are new to guiding it may behoove you to listen to the
experienced veteran guides. You might learn stuff from us. When I get around
people who know more than me I usually try to ask lots of questions and pump
their brains. And not resent them for opinions I don't agree with.
You will find, once you start guiding that the quality of your tourists is
going to vary widely.
You may want to ask some of the senior guides up there and try to learn.
With the kids the only difference between a "good" group and a "bad" one
is the adults. If there are adults with the group who really care about the
kids then the kids pay attention and have good manners. If you don't have
any caring responsible adults with the group the kids will have no
manners, will talk loudly constantly, throw pitballs, etc. and generally make
your life a nightmare.
I love Catholic and religious schools. The kids are great. Private
schools are wonderful too. My favorite are the Boy Scouts. They are so cool.
You'll have no trouble at all with them.
But the other groups.... Jeez Sherri, good luck, you'll find yourself
shouting into the mike because you can't hear yourself and no one payin g
attention and you willl be hating life until you can get out of there.
I send these groups up to Gettysburg after I tour with them in DC and can
only feel sorry for the LBGs that get them. Don't listen to me- go talk
to the senior LBGs- they'll tell you.
And the tourists in DC. When I talk about the Civil War and Lincoln I get
questions like "Which side won? The East or the West?" You just drop
your jaw in amazement at how little Americans know about their heritage.
They think the President lives in the Capitol.
Did you ever see the bit on Jay Leno where he goes out and asks people on
the street about current events and they just don't know what he's talking
There are a LOT of people who can't put the American Revolution or the
Civil War in the right century, much less the right decade.
Any real analysis of the American Education system will put us way below
nearly every European country, Japan and even Communist China.
If you want to get mad about it and resent me for sharing my misadventures
with the tourists in here I don't know what to tell you. I would like to
think that you have more important things in your life to get all
kerfluffled about than my hogwash.
There is one person in here that I delete when I see his name in here and
only see his posts when they are part of someone else's thread.
You may want to keep yourself from getting so upset by just deleting me
when you see my stuff come up.
But if I were you I'd try to learn from experienced guides and try to get
upset about more important things.
In a message dated 1/25/2012 2:06:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
sherri410 at aol.com writes:
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Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
I truly resent the fact that Peter has to make so many negative comments
about the tourists or customers that come to Gettysburg. Also as a Licensed
Battlefield Guide Candidate I also resent the way he makes it sound about
Gettysburg guides. I have worked my butt off to get to this point and know
what it takes to become a guide. I have watched many friends ahead of me
work hard. You have to know about the Civil War and everything Gettysburg so
it's not a popularity contest. It's about having the knowledge and then
showing you can put a tour together that the general public can enjoy and
hopefully learn something. This isn't a college class. This is a vacation trip
where you should be able to learn, enjoy and not made to feel stupid. To be
honest, I hope I NEVER EVER go on a tour with you Peter and am surprised
you still work at whatever you do. You seem like a miserable person who had
nothing nice to say about the people who are paying you. Instead of calling
them stupid, may
be you should appreciate the fact that they want to learn and yes, some
want to learn more than others. People should be treated with respect and not
made fun of constantly. I'm sure you have a few that may be comical but to
call all tourists that is downright mean. Again, I haven't posted here in
a long time and it's because of people like you.
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