GDG- ISusquehanna River

George Connell georgeconnell at mac.com
Tue Jan 24 19:16:23 CST 2012


Oops. Missed this answer. Thanks again.

Regards,

George
26ª11'56"N   81ª48'19W"

On Jan 24, 2012, at 7:24 PM, Tom wrote:

> Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
> Your Welcome - on that same page - top left - Introduction - just click on it - you'll see all the seminars that are available in PDF Format - they are priceless - stumbled upon this while searching for something else - I actually have the physical copies - bought them at the VC - but this is cheaper ;-D , and better.
> Regards,
> Tom B.
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> -----Original Message----- From: George Connell
> Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 7:19 PM
> To: GDG
> Subject: Re: GDG- ISusquehanna River
> 
> Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
> Thank you Tom. This is a resource I didn't know about. Would you know if the Park has done other things like this or was it a one-time deal?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> George
> 26ª11'56"N   81ª48'19W"
> 
> On Jan 24, 2012, at 7:08 PM, Tom wrote:
> 
>> Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
>> Sorry, more specifically , re: your below posts on Harrisburg - the same link - but the article " Our Whole Force Was Directed ........... ". On Pg. 103 - "Why Harrisburg" (scroll down in the PDF to Page 103._
>> 
>> Regards, Tom B.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message----- From: Tom Barrett
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 5:26 PM
>> To: 'GDG'
>> Subject: Re: GDG- ISusquehanna River
>> 
>> Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
>> 
>> When we discussed this in some detail a couple of months ago, I was left
>> with the impression that most everybody agreed that Lee, being in possession
>> of some common sense, and being able to read maps, was using Harrisburg the
>> way a matador uses a red cape. His real intent was to have the AOP rushing
>> wildly after him (like a bull) and to defeat it piecemeal.
>> 
>> Sending a force into Harrisburg was a good idea.  Preferably cavalry.  But
>> it made no sense for him to get a slow moving force trapped on the East side
>> of the Susquehanna until AFTER he'd sent the AOP home with its tail between
>> its legs. (Then he could move on to Boston, Buffalo, Syracuse or wherever.)
>> 
>> Of course, things never got that far, but I think he would have "sacked"
>> Harrisburg, wrecked the railroad, burned the warehouses, and waited for the
>> inevitable reaction- but waited on the West side of the river.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> TB
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: gettysburg-bounces at arthes.com [mailto:gettysburg-bounces at arthes.com]
>> On Behalf Of George Connell
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 5:10 PM
>> To: GDG
>> Subject: Re: GDG- ISusquehanna River
>> 
>> Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
>> Peter,
>> 
>> Some relevant items from my Gettysburg notes:
>> 
>> • During the Antietam Campaign when General John Walker, just up
>> from Richmond with his two-brigade division, reported to Lee at Frederick,
>> he says Lee told him that the Army was going to Harrisburg, destroy the
>> Pennsylvania railroad bridge, and then go to Philadelphia, Baltimore, or
>> Washington. (B&L, vol. 3). See also R. E. Lee, Vol II, pp. 360-1 for on his
>> thoughts on operating east of the Susquehanna during this campaign.
>> 
>> • Dorsey Pender, June 28, 1863, June 28, 1863: "I hope we may be in
>> Harrisburg in three days..." Lee's Lieutenants, Vol III, pp.76-77.
>> 
>> •  Lee to Ewell:  “If Harrisburg comes within your means, capture
>> it.” O.R., 27, pt.3. p.914
>> 
>> • ..."orders were...issued to move upon Harrisburg. O.R., 27, pt. 2,
>> p.. 316.
>> 
>> • June 28: Ewell ordered Rhodes to cross the river and capture
>> Harrisburg. Rich Kohr, Gettysburg LBG, 8/6/6
>> 
>> •  Lee’s orders to Hill on June 28 were to follow in trace of Early,
>> cross the Susquehanna downstream from Harrisburg, and seize the railroad
>> between Harrisburg and Philadelphia. James Robertson, General A. P. Hill, p.
>> 204
>> 
>> • "Then 'Jeb' started the entire column for Carlisle, vis Dillsburg.
>> He chose this objective because he reasoned that if the SOuthern infantry
>> had advanced to the Susquehanna and were not in the vicinity of York, they
>> must be around Carlisle or Harrisburg." Lee's Lieutenants, Vol III, p. 137.
>> 
>> • Lee: “To-morrow, gentlemen, we will not move to Harrisburg as
>> expected, but will go over to Gettysburg and see what General Meade is
>> after.” Gettysburg Nobody Knows, pp 110-111.
>> 
>> • Lee was going to Harrisburg. So say the document and spontaneous
>> utterances. He changed his mind because of a lack of cavalry to block the
>> passes. Tony Nicastro, LGB, in a lecture to the Gettysburg Licensed
>> Battlefield Guide class, 6/27/6
>> 
>> •  In Lee’s perfect world: he would dig in at Cashtown, block the
>> passes, wait for Stuart, and head for Harrisburg if possible. Tony Nicastro,
>> LGB, in a lecture to the Gettysburg Licensed Battlefield Guide class, 6/28/6
>> 
>> Now that's ten citations from eight respected sources; I have more but it
>> gets repetitious.
>> 
>> You can moan, you can grumble, and you can speculate, but what you cannot do
>> is doubt any longer. Lee was going to Harrisburg (and other points east of
>> the Susquehanna)--and he was taking a lot of infantry with him.
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> George
>> 26ª11'56"N   81ª48'19W"
>> 
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