GDG- ISusquehanna River

George Connell georgeconnell at mac.com
Tue Jan 24 18:19:42 CST 2012


Thank you Tom. This is a resource I didn't know about. Would you know if the Park has done other things like this or was it a one-time deal?

Regards,

George
26ª11'56"N   81ª48'19W"

On Jan 24, 2012, at 7:08 PM, Tom wrote:

> Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
>  Sorry, more specifically , re: your below posts on Harrisburg - the same link - but the article " Our Whole Force Was Directed ........... ". On Pg. 103 - "Why Harrisburg" (scroll down in the PDF to Page 103._
> 
> Regards, Tom B.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: Tom Barrett
> Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 5:26 PM
> To: 'GDG'
> Subject: Re: GDG- ISusquehanna River
> 
> Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
> 
> When we discussed this in some detail a couple of months ago, I was left
> with the impression that most everybody agreed that Lee, being in possession
> of some common sense, and being able to read maps, was using Harrisburg the
> way a matador uses a red cape. His real intent was to have the AOP rushing
> wildly after him (like a bull) and to defeat it piecemeal.
> 
> Sending a force into Harrisburg was a good idea.  Preferably cavalry.  But
> it made no sense for him to get a slow moving force trapped on the East side
> of the Susquehanna until AFTER he'd sent the AOP home with its tail between
> its legs. (Then he could move on to Boston, Buffalo, Syracuse or wherever.)
> 
> Of course, things never got that far, but I think he would have "sacked"
> Harrisburg, wrecked the railroad, burned the warehouses, and waited for the
> inevitable reaction- but waited on the West side of the river.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> TB
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gettysburg-bounces at arthes.com [mailto:gettysburg-bounces at arthes.com]
> On Behalf Of George Connell
> Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 5:10 PM
> To: GDG
> Subject: Re: GDG- ISusquehanna River
> 
> Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
> Peter,
> 
> Some relevant items from my Gettysburg notes:
> 
> • During the Antietam Campaign when General John Walker, just up
> from Richmond with his two-brigade division, reported to Lee at Frederick,
> he says Lee told him that the Army was going to Harrisburg, destroy the
> Pennsylvania railroad bridge, and then go to Philadelphia, Baltimore, or
> Washington. (B&L, vol. 3). See also R. E. Lee, Vol II, pp. 360-1 for on his
> thoughts on operating east of the Susquehanna during this campaign.
> 
> • Dorsey Pender, June 28, 1863, June 28, 1863: "I hope we may be in
> Harrisburg in three days..." Lee's Lieutenants, Vol III, pp.76-77.
> 
> •  Lee to Ewell:  “If Harrisburg comes within your means, capture
> it.” O.R., 27, pt.3. p.914
> 
> • ..."orders were...issued to move upon Harrisburg. O.R., 27, pt. 2,
> p.. 316.
> 
> • June 28: Ewell ordered Rhodes to cross the river and capture
> Harrisburg. Rich Kohr, Gettysburg LBG, 8/6/6
> 
> •  Lee’s orders to Hill on June 28 were to follow in trace of Early,
> cross the Susquehanna downstream from Harrisburg, and seize the railroad
> between Harrisburg and Philadelphia. James Robertson, General A. P. Hill, p.
> 204
> 
> • "Then 'Jeb' started the entire column for Carlisle, vis Dillsburg.
> He chose this objective because he reasoned that if the SOuthern infantry
> had advanced to the Susquehanna and were not in the vicinity of York, they
> must be around Carlisle or Harrisburg." Lee's Lieutenants, Vol III, p. 137.
> 
> • Lee: “To-morrow, gentlemen, we will not move to Harrisburg as
> expected, but will go over to Gettysburg and see what General Meade is
> after.” Gettysburg Nobody Knows, pp 110-111.
> 
> • Lee was going to Harrisburg. So say the document and spontaneous
> utterances. He changed his mind because of a lack of cavalry to block the
> passes. Tony Nicastro, LGB, in a lecture to the Gettysburg Licensed
> Battlefield Guide class, 6/27/6
> 
> •  In Lee’s perfect world: he would dig in at Cashtown, block the
> passes, wait for Stuart, and head for Harrisburg if possible. Tony Nicastro,
> LGB, in a lecture to the Gettysburg Licensed Battlefield Guide class, 6/28/6
> 
> Now that's ten citations from eight respected sources; I have more but it
> gets repetitious.
> 
> You can moan, you can grumble, and you can speculate, but what you cannot do
> is doubt any longer. Lee was going to Harrisburg (and other points east of
> the Susquehanna)--and he was taking a lot of infantry with him.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> George
> 26ª11'56"N   81ª48'19W"
> 
> 
> 
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