GDG- Inevitable defeat
Jeff Burk
jlb4tlb at yahoo.com
Tue Jan 24 16:14:57 CST 2012
Hi Andy, The Dam I am thinking of is The York Haven Dam at Conewago Falls, it was built in 1904. I believe you are referring to the Dock Street Dam built in 1913.
Namaste
Jeff Burk
>________________________________
> From: Andy Mills <amills at jplcreative.com>
>To: GDG <gettysburg at arthes.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 1:48 PM
>Subject: Re: GDG- Inevitable defeat
>
>Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
>Jeff:
>
>Out of curiosity: is the dam in which you refer, the one just below City Island across from the city?
>
>Thanks,
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: gettysburg-bounces at arthes.com [mailto:gettysburg-bounces at arthes.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Burk
>Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 1:42 PM
>To: GDG
>Subject: Re: GDG- Inevitable defeat
>
>Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
>Your point about the river being shallow is true today. However that is because the river has been dammed upstream. during the war the river flowed free.
>
>
> Namaste
>
>Jeff Burk
>
>
>>________________________________
>>From: "CWMHTours at aol.com" <CWMHTours at aol.com>
>>To: gettysburg at arthes.com
>>Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 1:14 PM
>>Subject: Re: GDG- Inevitable defeat
>>
>>Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
>>The river at that point is frequently shallow in summer droughts but
>>very wide and quite an obstacle. Very rocky.
>>
>>A smart and careful commander would not want to put more than an
>>expeditionary force that could have been sacrificed on the east side of the river.
>>Harrisburg was no significant military goal other than being a state
>>capital and RR center.
>>
>>Thre are 2 57mm guns sitting on the west side of the river there.
>>
>>A Loyal Neo-Anti Unionist,
>>Peter
>>
>>
>>In a message dated 1/24/2012 2:22:49 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>>mdblough1 at comcast.net writes:
>>
>>Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
>>Tom-The militia destroyed it in order to keep the Confederates using it to
>>cross over the the eastern shore of the Susquehanna. Harrisburg is on the
>>east and this would have enabled the Confederates to attack the city from
>>both sides. While Lee initially ordered the bridge's destruction, the ANV
>>generals on the scene saw the advantages to saving it and tried to save it.
>>The Susquehanna is not one of the wildest rivers in the world but bridges
>>were needed to cross it and with that bridge out there wasn't another until
>>Harrisburg. The hope was to destroy sections so it could be rebuilt later
>>but, in the days before dynamite, that sort of precision wasn't easily
>>obtained. The Columbia-Wrightsville bridge was a wood & stone covered bridge
>>believed to be the longest such bridge in the world at the time and the flames
>>that destroyed the wood, leaving only the granite supports.
>>
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>
>>Margaret
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Tom" <bunco973 at optonline.net>
>>To: "GDG" <gettysburg at arthes.com>
>>Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 10:38:11 PM
>>Subject: Re: GDG- Inevitable defeat
>>
>>Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
>>>>> And
>>in fact, if you think about it, the damn thing IS still made of big
>>granite blocks. Now just how are you going to knock the darn thing over
>>without a
>>whole lot of valuable time and trouble? <<< It was destroyed, by fire
>>(not the granite supports of course), by Union militia.
>>Regards, Tom B.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: CWMHTours at aol.com
>>Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 9:28 PM
>>To: gettysburg at arthes.com
>>Subject: Re: GDG- Inevitable defeat
>>
>>Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
>>Dave,
>>
>>Respectfully Sir,
>>
>>I think we disagree, sir.
>>
>>Where is it written that Lee disagreed with Jackson about destroying
>>infrastructure in the North? I think Lee was just about as aggressive as
>>Jackson was in bringing the war to your opponent. for example, Antietam,
>>Gtysbg,
>>& Monocacy.
>>
>>I am not dispersing you personally. I just see Lee & Jackson as being a
>>balanced combination.
>>
>>By the time of 2nd Man Lee could see the Hammer and the Anvil.
>>
>>The Hammer was Jackson.
>>
>>The Anvil was the wonderful James Peter Longstreet, the Old Warhorse.
>>
>>Also, just curious, I don't recall reference to Lee being concerned about
>>destroying the RR bridge over the Susq. R. being a big concern of his. And
>>in fact, if you think about it, the damn thing IS still made of big
>>granite blocks. Now just how are you going to knock the darn thing over
>>without a
>>whole lot of valuable time and trouble?
>>
>>Lee's 3 raids up north where just that. Raids. Move overwhelming forces
>>up north and attack piecemeal in overwhelming force.
>>
>>The purpose of going north for Lee was to de-stabilizing the North.
>>Everything else was a subset.
>>
>>A Loyal Neo-Anti Unionist,
>>Peter
>>
>>
>>
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