GDG- Inevitable defeat

Jeff Burk jlb4tlb at yahoo.com
Tue Jan 24 16:14:57 CST 2012


Hi Andy, The Dam I am thinking of is The York Haven Dam at Conewago Falls, it was built in 1904.  I believe you are referring to the Dock Street Dam built in 1913.


 Namaste
 
Jeff Burk


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> From: Andy Mills <amills at jplcreative.com>
>To: GDG <gettysburg at arthes.com> 
>Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 1:48 PM
>Subject: Re: GDG- Inevitable defeat
>  
>Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
>Jeff:
>
>Out of curiosity:  is the dam in which you refer, the one just below City Island across from the city?  
>
>Thanks,
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: gettysburg-bounces at arthes.com [mailto:gettysburg-bounces at arthes.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Burk
>Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 1:42 PM
>To: GDG
>Subject: Re: GDG- Inevitable defeat
>
>Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
>Your point about the river being shallow is true today.  However that is because the river has been dammed upstream.  during the  war the river flowed free. 
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>
> Namaste
> 
>Jeff Burk
>
>
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>>From: "CWMHTours at aol.com" <CWMHTours at aol.com>
>>To: gettysburg at arthes.com
>>Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 1:14 PM
>>Subject: Re: GDG- Inevitable defeat
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>>Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
>>The river at that point is frequently shallow in summer  droughts but 
>>very wide and quite an obstacle. Very rocky.
>>
>>A smart and careful commander would not want to put more than  an 
>>expeditionary force that could have been sacrificed on the east side of the  river.
>>Harrisburg was no significant military goal other than being a  state 
>>capital and RR center.
>>
>>Thre are 2 57mm guns sitting on the west side of the river  there.
>>
>>A  Loyal Neo-Anti Unionist,
>>Peter
>>
>>
>>In a message dated 1/24/2012 2:22:49 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
>>mdblough1 at comcast.net writes:
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>>Esteemed  GDG Member Contributes:
>>Tom-The militia destroyed it in order to keep the  Confederates using it to 
>>cross over the the eastern shore of the Susquehanna.  Harrisburg is on the 
>>east and this would have enabled the Confederates to  attack the city from 
>>both sides. While Lee initially ordered the bridge's  destruction, the ANV 
>>generals on the scene saw the advantages to saving it and  tried to save it. 
>>The Susquehanna is not one of the wildest rivers in the  world but bridges 
>>were needed to cross it and with that bridge out there  wasn't another until 
>>Harrisburg. The hope was to destroy sections so it could  be rebuilt later 
>>but, in the days before dynamite, that sort of precision  wasn't easily 
>>obtained. The Columbia-Wrightsville bridge was a wood &  stone covered bridge 
>>believed to be the longest such bridge in the world at  the time and the flames 
>>that destroyed the wood, leaving only the granite  supports. 
>>
>>
>>Regards, 
>>
>>
>>Margaret 
>>
>>----- Original  Message -----
>>From: "Tom" <bunco973 at optonline.net> 
>>To: "GDG"  <gettysburg at arthes.com> 
>>Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 10:38:11 PM  
>>Subject: Re: GDG- Inevitable defeat 
>>
>>Esteemed GDG Member  Contributes: 
>>>>> And 
>>in fact, if you think about it, the damn  thing IS still made of big 
>>granite blocks. Now just how are you going to  knock the darn thing over 
>>without a 
>>whole lot of valuable time and  trouble? <<< It was destroyed, by fire 
>>(not the granite supports  of course), by Union militia. 
>>Regards, Tom B.  
>>
>>
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>>
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>>-----Original Message----- 
>>From: CWMHTours at aol.com  
>>Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 9:28 PM 
>>To: gettysburg at arthes.com  
>>Subject: Re: GDG- Inevitable defeat 
>>
>>Esteemed GDG Member  Contributes: 
>>Dave, 
>>
>>Respectfully Sir, 
>>
>>I think we disagree,  sir. 
>>
>>Where is it written that Lee disagreed with Jackson about  destroying 
>>infrastructure in the North? I think Lee was just about as  aggressive as 
>>Jackson was in bringing the war to your opponent. for  example, Antietam, 
>>Gtysbg, 
>>& Monocacy. 
>>
>>I am not dispersing  you personally. I just see Lee & Jackson as being a 
>>balanced  combination. 
>>
>>By the time of 2nd Man Lee could see the Hammer and the  Anvil. 
>>
>>The Hammer was Jackson. 
>>
>>The Anvil was the wonderful  James Peter Longstreet, the Old Warhorse. 
>>
>>Also, just curious, I don't  recall reference to Lee being concerned about 
>>destroying the RR bridge  over the Susq. R. being a big concern of his. And 
>>in fact, if you think  about it, the damn thing IS still made of big 
>>granite blocks. Now just how  are you going to knock the darn thing over 
>>without a 
>>whole lot of  valuable time and trouble? 
>>
>>Lee's 3 raids up north where just that.  Raids. Move overwhelming forces 
>>up north and attack piecemeal in  overwhelming force. 
>>
>>The purpose of going north for Lee was to  de-stabilizing the North. 
>>Everything else was a subset. 
>>
>>A Loyal  Neo-Anti Unionist, 
>>Peter  
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