GDG- Inevitable defeat

Jack Lawrence jlawrence at
Tue Jan 24 12:06:23 CST 2012

Since we are using historical metaphors for Lee, here is one for the ages.

The armies separated; and, it is said, Pyrrhus replied to one that gave him 
joy of his victory that one more such victory would utterly undo him. For he 
had lost a great part of the forces he brought with him, and almost all his 
particular friends and principal commanders; there were no others there to 
make recruits, and he found the confederates in Italy backward. On the other 
hand, as from a fountain continually flowing out of the city, the Roman camp 
was quickly and plentifully filled up with fresh men, not at all abating in 
courage for the loss they sustained, but even from their very anger gaining 
new force and resolution to go on with the war.
Which pretty much describes every one of lee's "victories"?

Lee would probaly better be forgotten than have his name epitomized as king 
Pyrrhus-asin Pyyrhic victory.



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> Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
> Tim.
> Sir,
> When you consider Lee as a general it is helpful, if not  required, to
> remember the 2 Napoleonic Maxims of Warfare, which  are:
> 1.  Always strike with overwhelming  force.....
> If you remember those 2 maxims you can start to  get a  handle on  R.E. 
> Lee.
> He was a master of those.
> ie. Witness Chancellorville or 2 nd Man.  The man was  briilliant.  If you
> were in his shoes it would be hard to deviate from his  actions, unless 
> you
> are a dumb guy,  which fortunately we are  not.
> Pemberton and J Johnston had some 50k men between  them. With a 1000 miles
> between them and Lee he did the right  thing.
> The fortress of Washington was  his focus.  He  needed as mny people as
> possible.  Because it was a fortress he knew that  he could never 
> successfully
> attack it.  He had to get the Northern forces  away from DC in order to
> bring overwhelming force on the  AoP.
> If you go into Penn you keep the Yanks off balance.  And  if you can, you
> attack with overwhelming force.
> It's actually very simple to understand Lee in that  light.
> Do you like my new sign-off?  I don't know what a  neo-anti unionst is but
> I like how it sounds.
> A  Loyal Neo-Anti Unionist,
> Peter
> In a message dated 1/23/2012 11:36:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> joadx1 at writes:
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