GDG- Dave- a Second Response
Dave Glorioso
glory at zbzoom.net
Tue Jan 24 00:49:14 CST 2012
Yes as someone said I just summarized the article.
Are there primary sources documenting that Jackson wished to be more like Sherman than Lee?
Ie desired to burn factories, railroads and mills.
Lee was very aggressive with overuse of the frontal attack.
Even Pete preferred that they stay on tactical defensive as he pointed out at Gettysburg.
Dave
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On Jan 23, 2012, at 9:54 PM, CWMHTours at aol.com wrote:
> Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
> In more thought, at the risk of annoying everyone.
>
> By 2nd Man Lee had the perfect instrument of war.
>
> Just absolutely perfect.
>
> Longstreet, the master of solid assault and massive defense.
>
> Jackson, the master of fast Napoleonic warfare.
>
> Had that miraculous triumvirate survived Chancallorseville, it may not
> have been the battle of Gettysburg or anything else that we would recognize in
> battle to this day.
>
> Easily if Jackson had lived there just might never be any battle of
> Gettysburg at all. It would still be a quiet little boring farm town like
> Adamstown or Littlestown.
>
> Inconsequential.
>
> Jackson is the "X" factor of the war the East. Had he survived Chncvl
> anything could have happened- including Northern defeat on the battlefield.
>
> A Loyal Neo-Anti Unionist,
> Peter
>
>
> In a message dated 1/23/2012 8:24:04 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> glory at zbzoom.net writes:
>
> Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
> Just finished "how the south could have won the civil war", by Bevin
> Alexander-Armchair General 3-2012
>
> It ends:
> Saddled with leaders like Davis and Lee, who could not perceive reality,
> the South's defeat was inevitable.
>
> The crux of the article is Jackson understood that the means of war now
> favored the defense as witnessed during the 7 days battles when only 1 of
> Lee's 5 frontal attacks succeeded.
> Rifled muskets and canister would bleed out the southern army at this rate.
> Instead, Jackson encouraged offensive movement leading to a defensive
> stance on ground of his choice.
> He also favored aggressive northern invasion with additional plans to
> destroy factories, railroads and mines.
> Both Davis and Lee rejected his strategy. Davis was in favor of a more
> passive policy hoping the north would tire or Britain/France would intervene.
> Lee favored frontal attacks.
>
> At second manassas, Jackson's proposals led to an opportunity to destroy
> Pope's army. It may have worked if Lee would have attacked Popes left
> earlier, failing to prevent retreat.
> At Antietam, Jackson disagreed with Lee's goal of going to destroy the
> bridge over the Susquehanna.
> Instead he wanted to draw Mac to attack him north of Washington with added
> goal of destroying factories etc
> When battle took place at Antietam, Lee chose to fight despite little room
> for maneuver. Jackson's ideals would have favored withdrawing to a more
> favorable defensive position.
> At Fredericksburg, Jackson proposed going south to North Anna River where
> the cavalry would better be able to prevent the union army's retreat and
> resupply.
> At Chancellorsville, Lee put Jackson's strategy in place. An end around to
> cut off Hookers retreat over the Rappahannock at US Ford was foiled by
> Jackson's wound.
> Lee invaded North again but continued his fixation on frontal attacks
> during three costly days at Gettysburg.
>
> The above are interesting points although over simplified and without
> primary sources.
>
> Thoughts?
> Dave
>
>
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