GDG- Someone remind me

cooke1863 at cooke1863 at
Mon Jan 23 08:43:59 CST 2012


I don't think any day 1 fighting took place that far  south on the field. 

As the AOP retreated from Seminary Ridge on July 1 some cavalry units from Gamble's brigade covered the southern area of the Seminary fighting (near Red Patch) until the advancing ANV drove them away.The cavalry retreated south and east to the area of the Peach Orchard, from which they sent out pickets to scout the area west of them. Later that day some units from the III Corp (Humphrey's division) marched to the field from the west up the present day Wheatfield/Millerstown Road. I would hazard a guess that other than pickets the woods were not occupied on July 1. 

 On the 2nd, as the ANV gathered strength along Seminary Ridge, they began to fill in the area close to the woods. Also on the 2nd, as Sickles became concerned about what lay in front of him, he sent several companies of the US Sharpshooters, accompanied by men from the 3rd Maine, across the fields on a reconnaissance in order to find the left flank of the ANV. These men found and fired on troops of the 10th AL of Wilcox's brigade in a brief engagement that confirmed Sickles's fears that the Confederates were lining up across from him on the ridge. The AOP troops retreated from the area. which was occupied by Wilcox's men and, later in the day, by Barksdale's Mississippians and Wofford's Georgians. All of these ANV troops would participate in the July 2 advance on the AOP line in the 6-6:30 timeframe. 

Present day Berdan Avenue has some monuments to the men from the AOP who advanced to this area and discovered the expanding ANV line. 

Hope this helps. 


----- Original Message -----

From: "keith mackenzie" <bluzdad at> 
To: "GDG" <gettysburg at> 
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 6:14:07 PM 
Subject: GDG- Someone remind me 

Esteemed GDG Member Contributes: 
who fought in Pitzers Woods on day 1 and 2. 

"Hello! I'm The Doctor." 
(Dr. Who) 

 From: George Connell <georgeconnell at> 
To: GDG <gettysburg at> 
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 5:53 PM 
Subject: Re: GDG- Lost Cause and Inevitibility 
Esteemed GDG Member Contributes: 

If you google LC you'll see that this is one of the things almost always cited. I think it's wrong. 



On Jan 22, 2012, at 5:39 PM, Dennis Lawrence <denlaw at> wrote: 

> Esteemed GDG Member Contributes: 
>> Esteemed GDG Member Contributes: 
>> I have long been bothered by the belief that anyone who maintains that the South's defeat was inevitable as long as the Union retained the will to fight is a  "Lost Causer!" 
>> I think this is an utterly realistic assessment of the 'correlation of forces' and a great example of why the South was nuts to risk war. 
> Hello, 
>  I am not familiar with this definition of a lost causer.  To me a lost causer is a person who tries to perpetuate the myth that the war was not about slavery, but states rights, and the associated ideas that go with that - War of Yankee aggression, Lincoln the tyrant, Black Confederates, Confederate flag apologists,  etc. 
> Take Care 
> Dennis 
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