GDG- Custer (and Gettysburg) On the Tube Again
John Lawrence
jlawrence at kc.rr.com
Thu Jan 19 10:14:53 CST 2012
If you read my other posts, I also stated that he should move cautiously and not divide hi is forces
Having said that, he would have had to fight dismounted (as he did) in opposed rows, kneeling or prone with the guns deployed in a 360
Regards,
Jack
CWMHTours at aol.com wrote:
>Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
>Now Jack- just how are you going to use the gatlings? Where would you
>put them? On Last Stand Ridge it is extremely rough, broken up, and rolling.
> Custer's route was along the top of the ridge and when the Indians
>attacked it was almost on all sides, particularly from the rear. It was a
>running battle. How are you going to set them up? How would you keep them with
>Custer's columns as they raced north? The columns would have outrun them
>leaving them behind. The Indians really weren't that concentrated but
>rather scattered all around. You'd be reaiming the things all the time.
>
>They might have made a contribution at Reno Hill with Reno and Benteen but
>nothing significant.
>
>Reno had a moving line in the valley of LBG creek. How are you going to
>effectively use them with any practicality?
>
>No. The Gatlings would have been nearly useless and a major burden. Even
>if Custer had them at the last few minutes they still would have all
>gotten slaughtered.
>
>Jack, have you been there? It is pretty rough country.
>
>I recommend to anyone going on Bing maps for a birds eye view and you can
>see it.
>
>And what is really weird is that you can see all the little white marker
>stones. Pretty weird.
>
>"Just the facts, ma'am."
>
>Your Most Obediant Servant
>Peter
>
>
>In a message dated 1/19/2012 9:01:37 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>jlawrence at kc.rr.com writes:
>
>Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
>I think not dividing his command and moving more cautiously would have
>been more prudent.
>As to deployment, I have been to the site a couple of times.
>If you had gatlings, you could deploy two lines sole to sole and fire them
>over their heads.
>Regards,
>Jack
>
>CWMHTours at aol.com wrote:
>
>>Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
>>I think leaving the Gatlings behind was a smart move. Custer's plan was
>>to move fast to catch the Indians. The Gatlings were about as heavy as
>any
>>light arty. It would have slowed them a lot as they were going cross
>>country. It's pretty rough country out there.
>>
>>Plus the Indian attack unrolled so fast there really wasn't much time to
>>find a good site for them. If you can see panaramic pictures you'll see
>>what I mean. Plus The ridge seems like a pretty lousy place to try to
>use any
>>kind of arty effectively as it was so hilly and broken up. And with the
>>Indians at 360' where are you going to shoot? Turn one way and they
>come in
>>behind you Turn the other way and they are over there too. One of the
>>reason attributed to the quick demise for the 7th was that the ridge
>left
>>them pretty exposed on both sides. How are you going to set up a
>Gatling
>>without being pretty likely to get shot there?
>>
>>"Just the facts, ma'am."
>>
>>Your Most Obediant Servant
>>Peter
>>
>>
>>In a message dated 1/18/2012 3:59:36 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>>jlawrence at kc.rr.com writes:
>>
>>Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
>>The problem with Custer is that, at Little Big horn he refused the use
>of :
>>
>>1) Buffalo Soldiers (could not fight, despite what he should have
>learned
>>in
>>th ACW;
>>2) Gatling Guns (I thionk this decision to leave them behind reminds me
>of
>>
>>Stewart).
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Jack
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Dennis Lawrence" <denlaw at gojade.org>
>>To: "GDG" <gettysburg at arthes.com>
>>Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 2:09 PM
>>Subject: Re: GDG- Custer (and Gettysburg) On the Tube Again
>>
>>
>>> Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>I don't think the show portrayed Custer as a psychopath. Nor do I
>view
>>>>him as one. An aggressive, ambitious cavalry officer, yes. And one
>
>>>>pretty
>>>>much following standard military doctrine of the day.
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> The problem with Custer interpretations is looking back, we realize
>he
>>> was on the wrong side of history. Even though it was the accepted
>>military
>>> and political policy , having starred in the greatest debacle of that
>>era,
>>> it is easier to caricature him as the out of touch renegade.
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWGAdzn5_KU
>>>
>>> Take Care
>>>
>>> Dennis
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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