GDG- Custer (and Gettysburg) On the Tube Again
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Thu Jan 19 09:55:45 CST 2012
Now Jack- just how are you going to use the gatlings? Where would you
put them? On Last Stand Ridge it is extremely rough, broken up, and rolling.
Custer's route was along the top of the ridge and when the Indians
attacked it was almost on all sides, particularly from the rear. It was a
running battle. How are you going to set them up? How would you keep them with
Custer's columns as they raced north? The columns would have outrun them
leaving them behind. The Indians really weren't that concentrated but
rather scattered all around. You'd be reaiming the things all the time.
They might have made a contribution at Reno Hill with Reno and Benteen but
nothing significant.
Reno had a moving line in the valley of LBG creek. How are you going to
effectively use them with any practicality?
No. The Gatlings would have been nearly useless and a major burden. Even
if Custer had them at the last few minutes they still would have all
gotten slaughtered.
Jack, have you been there? It is pretty rough country.
I recommend to anyone going on Bing maps for a birds eye view and you can
see it.
And what is really weird is that you can see all the little white marker
stones. Pretty weird.
"Just the facts, ma'am."
Your Most Obediant Servant
Peter
In a message dated 1/19/2012 9:01:37 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
jlawrence at kc.rr.com writes:
Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
I think not dividing his command and moving more cautiously would have
been more prudent.
As to deployment, I have been to the site a couple of times.
If you had gatlings, you could deploy two lines sole to sole and fire them
over their heads.
Regards,
Jack
CWMHTours at aol.com wrote:
>Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
>I think leaving the Gatlings behind was a smart move. Custer's plan was
>to move fast to catch the Indians. The Gatlings were about as heavy as
any
>light arty. It would have slowed them a lot as they were going cross
>country. It's pretty rough country out there.
>
>Plus the Indian attack unrolled so fast there really wasn't much time to
>find a good site for them. If you can see panaramic pictures you'll see
>what I mean. Plus The ridge seems like a pretty lousy place to try to
use any
>kind of arty effectively as it was so hilly and broken up. And with the
>Indians at 360' where are you going to shoot? Turn one way and they
come in
>behind you Turn the other way and they are over there too. One of the
>reason attributed to the quick demise for the 7th was that the ridge
left
>them pretty exposed on both sides. How are you going to set up a
Gatling
>without being pretty likely to get shot there?
>
>"Just the facts, ma'am."
>
>Your Most Obediant Servant
>Peter
>
>
>In a message dated 1/18/2012 3:59:36 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>jlawrence at kc.rr.com writes:
>
>Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
>The problem with Custer is that, at Little Big horn he refused the use
of :
>
>1) Buffalo Soldiers (could not fight, despite what he should have
learned
>in
>th ACW;
>2) Gatling Guns (I thionk this decision to leave them behind reminds me
of
>
>Stewart).
>
>Regards,
>
>Jack
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Dennis Lawrence" <denlaw at gojade.org>
>To: "GDG" <gettysburg at arthes.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 2:09 PM
>Subject: Re: GDG- Custer (and Gettysburg) On the Tube Again
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>> Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
>>
>>>
>>>I don't think the show portrayed Custer as a psychopath. Nor do I
view
>>>him as one. An aggressive, ambitious cavalry officer, yes. And one
>>>pretty
>>>much following standard military doctrine of the day.
>>
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> The problem with Custer interpretations is looking back, we realize
he
>> was on the wrong side of history. Even though it was the accepted
>military
>> and political policy , having starred in the greatest debacle of that
>era,
>> it is easier to caricature him as the out of touch renegade.
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWGAdzn5_KU
>>
>> Take Care
>>
>> Dennis
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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