GDG- Killing Lincoln

Jack Lawrence jlawrence at kc.rr.com
Wed Jan 18 19:22:38 CST 2012


I bekieve Caesar was assassibated.

Regards,

Jack
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> Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
> If you are talkiung about Lafaytette Baker and not Luther the  man comes 
> of
> in Steers and Kaufman, etc., as extremely suspect, deceptive, 
> duplicitive,
> and not honest.
>
> He just might have told the the truth but it would be wise to  regard
> anything he had to as unreliable unless you can get a verification from 
> some
> other source.
>
> I don't like him.
>
> "Just  the facts, ma'am."
>
> Your Most Obediant Servant
> Peter
>
>
> In a message dated 1/18/2012 4:45:46 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> jlawrence at kc.rr.com writes:
>
> Esteemed  GDG Member Contributes:
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From:  <Batrinque at aol.com>
> To: <gettysburg at arthes.com>
> Sent:  Wednesday, January 18, 2012 10:48 AM
> Subject: Re: GDG- Killing  Lincoln
>
>
>> Esteemed GDG Member  Contributes:
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 1/18/2012 10:01:06  A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>> jlawrence at kc.rr.com  writes:
>>
>> Like  redaing a book on book on Atlantis,  Bigfoot,  UFO's, Area 51 etc.
>> there is very limited primary  material so the read what others have
>> written,
>>
>> Only  in this case, there was a host of primary material   available.
>>
>>
>> Indeed there is.  One of the most  fascinating collections of primary
>> material is to be found in "The  Lincoln Assassination: The Evidence" by
>> William
>> Edwards and  Ed Steer.  It's an expensive volume, but full of documents
>>  from
>> Government files collected at the time. Much of it is irrelevant  (such 
>> as
>> letters from crackpots) or trivial (memos of a wholly  administrative
>> nature)
>> but  there are a some gems, and  it yields an excellent impression of how
>> the  investigation was  carried out.  I have just spent much of last
>> evening
>>  and  this morning plowing through the stuff in search of enlightenment
> on
>> a
>> minor  point of the Booth escape story and now feel  reasonably confident
> I
>> have finally  figured out the right answer  through using statements
>> obtained
>> within days of  the  events from secondary players.
>>
>> Bruce  Trinque
>>  Amston, CT
>
> Really good points Bruce.
>
> Baker's 'United States  secret Service", Baker, a primary source if there
> ever was one, the  protagagonist in the Dugard's book, addresses mostly
> liquor smuggling,  Female spies, Canadian Activities, traitors and 
> schemes,
> ad nauseum in his  book.
> When he gets around to how he singlehandedly ran down Booth, he  starts 
> off
> with, he starts off with Caesar, King James, Marat and  Alexander, until 
> he
> get's around to Lincoln. He starts this off by going  back to a mass of
> anonymous threats against Lincoln in 1861 and continues  to the
> assassination. There is no mention of the  inauguration.
>
> There is however, a nugget of information about the  protection system
> surrounding Lincoln. In short, there is mostly the  "irrelevant"
> information
> you cite above.
>
> Multiply this dozens of  times and one can see how a pop "history" novel
> would rather rely on a  handful of sources, none primary.
>
> As we all know, first tier history  books are amalgams of primary and
> secondary sources with both  interpretative and narrative themes.
>
> Codington and Pfanz come to  mind.
>
> (Laino uses primary sources and period maps with no  inerpretation, the
> finest pureest of first tier in my mind).
>
> Second  tier books rely on first tier sources and third tier books
> reinterpret  second tier sources.
>
> Third tier history books speak for  themselves.
>
> A member recently mentioned a book on WWI, with "The Backs  To The  Wall
> Victory And defeat In 1918.
>
> this book cites many  secondary sources, but ir also incorporates much
> information based on  studies by the belligerents after the war.
> It cites, aong other things, an  analysis of the peacefull use of nitrates
> for fertilizer as opposed to  ammonition. As a better way to continue the
> war
> later.
>
> As it  did,
>
> It will take me weeks to digest this book, but to me this is an  example 
> of
> a
> history book that reduces the Dugard/O'Reilly to third tier  ?(pap).
>
> Regards,
>
> Jack
>
>
>
>
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