GDG- Killing Lincoln
Jack Lawrence
jlawrence at kc.rr.com
Sat Jan 14 22:48:54 CST 2012
I assume we are talking about the Surratt woman
----- Original Message -----
From: <CWMHTours at aol.com>
To: <gettysburg at arthes.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 10:39 PM
Subject: Re: GDG- Killing Lincoln
> Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
> " A traitor museum."
>
> I am mystified by that statement.
>
> What does it mean?
>
> Your Most Obedient Servant,
> Peter
>
>
> In a message dated 1/14/2012 11:34:03 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> jlawrence at kc.rr.com writes:
>
> Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
> Why would I give anything to a traitor museum?
>
> I would rather burn it. (The book, not the museum).
>
> Regards,
>
> Jack
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <CWMHTours at aol.com>
> To: <gettysburg at arthes.com>
> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 9:58 PM
> Subject: Re: GDG- Killing Lincoln
>
>
>> Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
>> You may get an ultimate benefit if you donated it to the Surratt
>> Society
>> in Clinton.
>>
>> The market price seems to be shockingly low but as a museum piece it
>> should be worth more than what you paid. Plus they would preserve it.
>> Which
>> would be better than a plastic bag.
>>
>> Have you been down there ? It is way cool.
>>
>> Your Most Obedient Servant,
>> Peter
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 1/14/2012 10:51:19 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>> jlawrence at kc.rr.com writes:
>>
>> Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
>> Oh ok.I have it in a sealed up sandwich bag.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> This book was already at the crumbly yellow stage when I got it.
>>
>> I bought it from an estate.
>>
>> I had a lot of Tarzan books like that. Yellow and crumbly.
>>
>> I worked all my life and, the last 30 years, bought books to read in my
>> retirement. I retired last May and the books, I find out, are
>> worthless.
>>
>> My daughters gave me a Nook for Christmas and my wife gave me a Nexus
> 4G.
>> I
>> downloaded a Kindle to the phone and a Adobe pub to adapt the books to
>> each
>> application.
>> We are taking a month long cruise and, instaed of the usual twenty or
>> so
>> pounds of books, are taking a couple of 8 ounce devices that we can
> read
>> all
>> thebooks in the world on, history books and bodice rippers.
>> And all the newspapers in the world. Even on a bus in Arabia.
>>
>> So I have Samuael Morrisons complete history of the US Navy in WWII and
>> it
>> is worthless.
>> Jack McDevitt's Hercules Text. Worthless.
>> Roosevelt's Japaenese-russian war Nobel Prize negotiations, worthless.
>>
>> And I love it.
>>
>> Never had so many had so much information available in history.
>>
>> Knowledge is no longer the privelege of the Ivory towewr crowd, nor the
>> sole
>> domain of academia.
>> Anybody can, in seconds, find out what they want to know ib seconfds,
>> withpout traveling humdreds of miles and winnowing through non
> allergenic
>> moldy records. True, it is all not available yet to all, but it will be
>> in
>> our lifetimes.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Jack
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jeff Burk" <jlb4tlb at yahoo.com>
>> To: "GDG" <gettysburg at arthes.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 8:52 PM
>> Subject: Re: GDG- Killing Lincoln
>>
>>
>>> Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
>>> The grade would tell you how pure the product is. Low quality plastic
>> will
>>> yellow paper pruducts over time.
>>>
>>>
>>> Namaste
>>>
>>> Jeff Burk
>>>
>>>
>>>>________________________________
>>>> From: Jack Lawrence <jlawrence at kc.rr.com>
>>>>To: GDG <gettysburg at arthes.com>
>>>>Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 9:31 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: GDG- Killing Lincoln
>>>>
>>>>Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
>>>>OK.
>>>>
>>>>I'll bite.
>>>>
>>>>What is grade?
>>>>
>>>>Regards,
>>>>
>>>>Jack
>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Burk" <jlb4tlb at yahoo.com>
>>>>To: "GDG" <gettysburg at arthes.com>
>>>>Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 8:28 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: GDG- Killing Lincoln
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
>>>>> Just downloaded the Baker book, thanks for the tip. Interesting in
>> that
>>>>> had I not read O'Reillly I might have never heard of this one.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have also paid good money for books now that can be downloaded for
>>>>> free or a small fee. The old book always feels much better in my
> hands
>>>>> then my nook.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is your plastic archive grade? If not it should be. Mylar works real
>>>>> well
>>>>>
>>>>> Namaste
>>>>>
>>>>> Jeff Burk
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>> From: Jack Lawrence <jlawrence at kc.rr.com>
>>>>>> To: GDG <gettysburg at arthes.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 9:02 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: GDG- Killing Lincoln
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
>>>>>> Bruce,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes I did. I tried harder than you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I read all this and more.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I chose chose not to ape the marketing side of the house.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> FYI: have a copy of protagonist Lafayette C. Bakers book, "United
>>>>>> States Secret Service".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is one of those delghtfull books, reprinted in the 1890's, with
>> old,
>>>>>> fragile yellow pages that the edges crumble.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I paid 120.00 dollars for it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I keep it in a plastic bag and have not opened it for these 12
> years,
>>>>>> after reading the Lincoln chapters.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is available for less than two bucks now on Amazon, Kindle and
>> Nook.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Damn.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is a great primary source, and certainly better than the treacle
>> in
>>>>>> discussion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> OTOH, anything that tunes someone into history is better than
>> nothing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jack
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I took the road less traveled, and it has made all the
>>>>>> difference.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BTW: Was Booth really stopped from attacking lincoln at the second
>>>>>> inaugaral Inaugaration, as portrayed in the book?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From EN Bookstores:
>>>>>> The products sold at Eastern National bookstores are a combination
> of
>>>>>> Eastern National-produced items and merchandise purchased through
>>>>>> outside vendors, including books, reproductions, apparel, and
>>>>>> collectibles. All products sold in Eastern National retail outlets
>> are
>>>>>> evaluated by National Park Service interpreters for historical
>>>>>> accuracy, quality, and relevance to park themes. Strict standards
> are
>>>>>> maintained to ensure we offer the finest quality products that
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> enhance visitors’ experiences. As a cooperating association,
>>>>>> Eastern
>>>>>> National sells only products that the National Park Service has
>>>>>> approved.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Reference: Eastern National
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Burk" <jlb4tlb at yahoo.com>
>>>>>> To: "GDG" <gettysburg at arthes.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 3:37 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: GDG- Killing Lincoln
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
>>>>>>> The following is from the home page publishers web site.
>>>>>>> "New From Henry Holt
>>>>>>> Killing Lincoln
>>>>>>> The Shocking Assassination that Changed America Forever
>>>>>>> A riveting historical narrative of the heart-stopping events
>>>>>>> surrounding the assassination of Abraham Lincoln, and the first
> work
>>>>>>> of history from mega-bestselling author Bill O'Reilly"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is from the publishes page promoting 'Killing Lincoln.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "A riveting historical narrative of the heart-stopping events
>>>>>>> surrounding the assassination of Abraham Lincoln, and the first
> work
>>>>>>> of history from mega-bestselling author Bill O'Reilly
>>>>>>> The anchor of The O'Reilly Factor recounts one of the most
> dramatic
>>>>>>> stories in American history—how one gunshot changed the country
>>>>>>> forever. In the spring of 1865, the bloody saga of America's Civil
>> War
>>>>>>> finally comes to an end after a series of increasingly harrowing
>>>>>>> battles. President Abraham Lincoln's generous terms for Robert E.
>>>>>>> Lee's surrender are devised to fulfill Lincoln's dream of healing
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> divided nation, with the former Confederates allowed to
> reintegrate
>>>>>>> into American society. But one man and his band of murderous
>>>>>>> accomplices, perhaps reaching into the highest ranks of the U.S.
>>>>>>> government, are not appeased.
>>>>>>> In the midst of the patriotic celebrations in Washington D.C.,
>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>> Wilkes Booth—charismatic ladies' man and impenitent racist—
> murders
>>>>>>> Abraham Lincoln at Ford's Theatre. A furious manhunt ensues and
>> Booth
>>>>>>> immediately becomes the country's most wanted fugitive. Lafayette
> C.
>>>>>>> Baker, a smart but shifty New York detective and former Union spy,
>>>>>>> unravels the string of clues leading to Booth, while federal
> forces
>>>>>>> track his accomplices. The thrilling chase ends in a fiery
>>>>>>> shootout
>>>>>>> and a series of court-ordered executions—including that of the
> first
>>>>>>> woman ever executed by the U.S. government, Mary Surratt.
>>>>>>> Featuring
>>>>>>> some of history's most remarkable figures, vivid detail, and
>>>>>>> page-turning action, Killing Lincoln is history that reads like a
>>>>>>> thriller. "
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jack didn't look very hard.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Namaste
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jeff Burk
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>>> From: Jack Lawrence <jlawrence at kc.rr.com>
>>>>>>>> To: GDG <gettysburg at arthes.com>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 4:12 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: GDG- Killing Lincoln
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
>>>>>>>>> At 02:04 PM 1/14/2012, you wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> The correct term is "speculative popular history". Or
>> "Interprative
>>>>>>>>>> History". In the style of bodice rippers.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There is no such categories as the ones you suggest. There is
>>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>> bodice ripping in it. It is not a novel. It is popular
>>>>>>>>> history.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Obviously, you have not read the book. I have. I'm not
> sympathetic
>>
>>>>>>>>> to it, but that does not change what it is.
>>>>>>>> Hello.
>>>>>>>> We can discuss terms, but Holt, the publisher, does not list this
>> as
>>>>>>>> a history book on its site.
>>>>>>>> Maybe I am looking for it wrong. The terms used aere samples of
>>>>>>>> descriptions used for the book, including the publishers site.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No one, even the publisher, seems to want to call it a history
>> book.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jack
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Maybe its an iambic billameter poem?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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