GDG- Killing Lincoln
CWMHTours at aol.com
CWMHTours at aol.com
Sat Jan 14 22:39:14 CST 2012
" A traitor museum."
I am mystified by that statement.
What does it mean?
Your Most Obedient Servant,
Peter
In a message dated 1/14/2012 11:34:03 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
jlawrence at kc.rr.com writes:
Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
Why would I give anything to a traitor museum?
I would rather burn it. (The book, not the museum).
Regards,
Jack
----- Original Message -----
From: <CWMHTours at aol.com>
To: <gettysburg at arthes.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 9:58 PM
Subject: Re: GDG- Killing Lincoln
> Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
> You may get an ultimate benefit if you donated it to the Surratt Society
> in Clinton.
>
> The market price seems to be shockingly low but as a museum piece it
> should be worth more than what you paid. Plus they would preserve it.
> Which
> would be better than a plastic bag.
>
> Have you been down there ? It is way cool.
>
> Your Most Obedient Servant,
> Peter
>
>
> In a message dated 1/14/2012 10:51:19 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> jlawrence at kc.rr.com writes:
>
> Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
> Oh ok.I have it in a sealed up sandwich bag.
>
> Thanks.
>
> This book was already at the crumbly yellow stage when I got it.
>
> I bought it from an estate.
>
> I had a lot of Tarzan books like that. Yellow and crumbly.
>
> I worked all my life and, the last 30 years, bought books to read in my
> retirement. I retired last May and the books, I find out, are worthless.
>
> My daughters gave me a Nook for Christmas and my wife gave me a Nexus
4G.
> I
> downloaded a Kindle to the phone and a Adobe pub to adapt the books to
> each
> application.
> We are taking a month long cruise and, instaed of the usual twenty or so
> pounds of books, are taking a couple of 8 ounce devices that we can
read
> all
> thebooks in the world on, history books and bodice rippers.
> And all the newspapers in the world. Even on a bus in Arabia.
>
> So I have Samuael Morrisons complete history of the US Navy in WWII and
> it
> is worthless.
> Jack McDevitt's Hercules Text. Worthless.
> Roosevelt's Japaenese-russian war Nobel Prize negotiations, worthless.
>
> And I love it.
>
> Never had so many had so much information available in history.
>
> Knowledge is no longer the privelege of the Ivory towewr crowd, nor the
> sole
> domain of academia.
> Anybody can, in seconds, find out what they want to know ib seconfds,
> withpout traveling humdreds of miles and winnowing through non
allergenic
> moldy records. True, it is all not available yet to all, but it will be
> in
> our lifetimes.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jack
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jeff Burk" <jlb4tlb at yahoo.com>
> To: "GDG" <gettysburg at arthes.com>
> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 8:52 PM
> Subject: Re: GDG- Killing Lincoln
>
>
>> Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
>> The grade would tell you how pure the product is. Low quality plastic
> will
>> yellow paper pruducts over time.
>>
>>
>> Namaste
>>
>> Jeff Burk
>>
>>
>>>________________________________
>>> From: Jack Lawrence <jlawrence at kc.rr.com>
>>>To: GDG <gettysburg at arthes.com>
>>>Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 9:31 PM
>>>Subject: Re: GDG- Killing Lincoln
>>>
>>>Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
>>>OK.
>>>
>>>I'll bite.
>>>
>>>What is grade?
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>
>>>Jack
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Burk" <jlb4tlb at yahoo.com>
>>>To: "GDG" <gettysburg at arthes.com>
>>>Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 8:28 PM
>>>Subject: Re: GDG- Killing Lincoln
>>>
>>>
>>>> Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
>>>> Just downloaded the Baker book, thanks for the tip. Interesting in
> that
>>>> had I not read O'Reillly I might have never heard of this one.
>>>>
>>>> I have also paid good money for books now that can be downloaded for
>>>> free or a small fee. The old book always feels much better in my
hands
>>>> then my nook.
>>>>
>>>> Is your plastic archive grade? If not it should be. Mylar works real
>>>> well
>>>>
>>>> Namaste
>>>>
>>>> Jeff Burk
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>> From: Jack Lawrence <jlawrence at kc.rr.com>
>>>>> To: GDG <gettysburg at arthes.com>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 9:02 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: GDG- Killing Lincoln
>>>>>
>>>>> Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
>>>>> Bruce,
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes I did. I tried harder than you.
>>>>>
>>>>> I read all this and more.
>>>>>
>>>>> I chose chose not to ape the marketing side of the house.
>>>>>
>>>>> FYI: have a copy of protagonist Lafayette C. Bakers book, "United
>>>>> States Secret Service".
>>>>>
>>>>> It is one of those delghtfull books, reprinted in the 1890's, with
> old,
>>>>> fragile yellow pages that the edges crumble.
>>>>>
>>>>> I paid 120.00 dollars for it.
>>>>>
>>>>> I keep it in a plastic bag and have not opened it for these 12
years,
>>>>> after reading the Lincoln chapters.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is available for less than two bucks now on Amazon, Kindle and
> Nook.
>>>>>
>>>>> Damn.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is a great primary source, and certainly better than the treacle
> in
>>>>> discussion.
>>>>>
>>>>> OTOH, anything that tunes someone into history is better than
> nothing.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Jack
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I took the road less traveled, and it has made all the difference.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW: Was Booth really stopped from attacking lincoln at the second
>>>>> inaugaral Inaugaration, as portrayed in the book?
>>>>>
>>>>> From EN Bookstores:
>>>>> The products sold at Eastern National bookstores are a combination
of
>>>>> Eastern National-produced items and merchandise purchased through
>>>>> outside vendors, including books, reproductions, apparel, and
>>>>> collectibles. All products sold in Eastern National retail outlets
> are
>>>>> evaluated by National Park Service interpreters for historical
>>>>> accuracy, quality, and relevance to park themes. Strict standards
are
>>>>> maintained to ensure we offer the finest quality products that will
>>>>> enhance visitors’ experiences. As a cooperating association, Eastern
>>>>> National sells only products that the National Park Service has
>>>>> approved.
>>>>>
>>>>> Reference: Eastern National
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Burk" <jlb4tlb at yahoo.com>
>>>>> To: "GDG" <gettysburg at arthes.com>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 3:37 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: GDG- Killing Lincoln
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
>>>>>> The following is from the home page publishers web site.
>>>>>> "New From Henry Holt
>>>>>> Killing Lincoln
>>>>>> The Shocking Assassination that Changed America Forever
>>>>>> A riveting historical narrative of the heart-stopping events
>>>>>> surrounding the assassination of Abraham Lincoln, and the first
work
>>>>>> of history from mega-bestselling author Bill O'Reilly"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is from the publishes page promoting 'Killing Lincoln.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "A riveting historical narrative of the heart-stopping events
>>>>>> surrounding the assassination of Abraham Lincoln, and the first
work
>>>>>> of history from mega-bestselling author Bill O'Reilly
>>>>>> The anchor of The O'Reilly Factor recounts one of the most
dramatic
>>>>>> stories in American history—how one gunshot changed the country
>>>>>> forever. In the spring of 1865, the bloody saga of America's Civil
> War
>>>>>> finally comes to an end after a series of increasingly harrowing
>>>>>> battles. President Abraham Lincoln's generous terms for Robert E.
>>>>>> Lee's surrender are devised to fulfill Lincoln's dream of healing a
>>>>>> divided nation, with the former Confederates allowed to
reintegrate
>>>>>> into American society. But one man and his band of murderous
>>>>>> accomplices, perhaps reaching into the highest ranks of the U.S.
>>>>>> government, are not appeased.
>>>>>> In the midst of the patriotic celebrations in Washington D.C., John
>>>>>> Wilkes Booth—charismatic ladies' man and impenitent racist—
murders
>>>>>> Abraham Lincoln at Ford's Theatre. A furious manhunt ensues and
> Booth
>>>>>> immediately becomes the country's most wanted fugitive. Lafayette
C.
>>>>>> Baker, a smart but shifty New York detective and former Union spy,
>>>>>> unravels the string of clues leading to Booth, while federal
forces
>>>>>> track his accomplices. The thrilling chase ends in a fiery shootout
>>>>>> and a series of court-ordered executions—including that of the
first
>>>>>> woman ever executed by the U.S. government, Mary Surratt. Featuring
>>>>>> some of history's most remarkable figures, vivid detail, and
>>>>>> page-turning action, Killing Lincoln is history that reads like a
>>>>>> thriller. "
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jack didn't look very hard.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Namaste
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jeff Burk
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>> From: Jack Lawrence <jlawrence at kc.rr.com>
>>>>>>> To: GDG <gettysburg at arthes.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 4:12 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: GDG- Killing Lincoln
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
>>>>>>>> At 02:04 PM 1/14/2012, you wrote:
>>>>>>>>> The correct term is "speculative popular history". Or
> "Interprative
>>>>>>>>> History". In the style of bodice rippers.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There is no such categories as the ones you suggest. There is no
>>>>>>>> bodice ripping in it. It is not a novel. It is popular history.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Obviously, you have not read the book. I have. I'm not
sympathetic
>
>>>>>>>> to it, but that does not change what it is.
>>>>>>> Hello.
>>>>>>> We can discuss terms, but Holt, the publisher, does not list this
> as
>>>>>>> a history book on its site.
>>>>>>> Maybe I am looking for it wrong. The terms used aere samples of
>>>>>>> descriptions used for the book, including the publishers site.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No one, even the publisher, seems to want to call it a history
> book.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jack
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Maybe its an iambic billameter poem?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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