GDG- O'Relly book filming for History channel

Jack jlawrence at kc.rr.com
Sat Jan 14 09:41:52 CST 2012


I had forgot about Hornblower. Thanks Margaret for starting my weekend so pleasantly.
Regards,
Jack

"Margaret D. Blough" <mdblough1 at comcast.net> wrote:

>Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
>Jack-If you look at what was available in terms of historical works at the time Michael Shaara wrote "The Killier Angels", he did pretty well in terms of historical accuracy, particularly in terms of not buying into the Lost Cause. Nevertheless, he did write it as a novel which enabled him to imagine, properly, thoughts and conversations for characters. Like you, I am comfortable with giving historical novelists a certain amount of slack. To me, the critical areas are staying true to the basic events and people involved, unless the author clearly bills it as altHistory, and makes you want to learn more about what really happened. "The Killer Angels" and the entire Hornblower series meet that test. 
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>Regards, 
>
>
>Margaret 
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jack Lawrence" <jlawrence at kc.rr.com> 
>To: "GDG" <gettysburg at arthes.com> 
>Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 9:21:30 PM 
>Subject: GDG- O'Relly book filming for History channel 
>
>Esteemed GDG Member Contributes: 
>He did write it. 
>
>If you look carefully Though, the co-author, Dugard,is listed in small type 
>on the cover. 
>
>O'Reilly said that Dugard did the reserach on the history and gave it to 
>him, then O'Reilly "did the text". 
>
>"A true collaboration" said O'Reilly. 
>
>I'm not sure what that means. 
>
>Dugard did the work and O'Reilly did the blarney? 
>
>I do not understand the brouhurrah here, as this is just another thriller 
>hung onto the framework of history. 
>
>Happens all the time. 
>
>In other words, when you are writing a novel and not history, artistic 
>liscense kicks is the frule, not the exception. 
>
>I am not, BTW, oppsed to historical novels. 
>
>Killer Angels tuned me into the civil war. 
>
>And I daresay, this conjectural popular history has got to be better than 
>Gingrich's seminal work on Gettysburg. 
>
>Regards, 
>
>Jack 
>
>It looks like a certain legitimacy is being extended to this work because 
>National Geographic has hired the director of Thema and Louise and GI Jane 
>to direct a two part mini-series based on the book. 
>
>Full disclosure requires that it be noted that the \National geographic 
>channel is 25% owned by National Geographic and 75% owned by Newscorp. Which 
>owns fox News. which employs Bill O'Reilly. 
>
>Which to me is the real farce here. A book that makes no pretense about 
>being real history is being turned into history. 
>
>By O'Reilly's employer. 
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>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: <CWMHTours at aol.com> 
>To: <gettysburg at arthes.com> 
>Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 7:38 PM 
>Subject: Re: GDG- O'Relly book filming for History channel 
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>> Esteemed GDG Member Contributes: 
>> I am just unaware of it but am no longer. 
>> 
>> If he is such a historian then why would he write a book so full of 
>> mistakes? 
>> 
>> You would think someone with that background would know better, wouldn't 
>> you? He must have written some kind of theses or something with 
>> footnotes 
>> and all in order to get a history degree. 
>> 
>> I just personally am kind of tired when people with not much expertise 
>> come out with some new groundbreaking Civil War book to amaze everybody 
>> and 
>> half the time you can't even call it real history. You read it and it 
>> is a 
>> major disappointment that doesn't even teach you anything new, like 
>> Swanson. 
>> 
>> Your Most Obedient Servant, 
>> Peter 
>> 
>> 
>> In a message dated 1/13/2012 8:12:14 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
>> jlb4tlb at yahoo.com writes: 
>> 
>> Esteemed GDG Member Contributes: 
>> So I guess you believe that O'Reilly's degree in History as meaningless 
>> or 
>> just unaware of it? 
>> 
>> BTW, he also taught History. 
>> 
>> Namaste 
>> 
>> Jeff Burk 
>> 
>> 
>>>________________________________ 
>>> From: "CWMHTours at aol.com" <CWMHTours at aol.com> 
>>>To: gettysburg at arthes.com 
>>>Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 8:01 PM 
>>>Subject: Re: GDG- O'Relly book filming for History channel 
>>> 
>>>You either are a historian writing historian or you are not. It's black 
>> 
>>>and white to me. 
>>> 
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