GDG- skirmish line vs line of battle

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Wed Jan 11 14:19:25 CST 2012


Nancy-
 
Feb 12th.  W, DC?
 
Hope you can make it.
 
I don't want to be the one to tell John you can't make  it.   ;-)
 
Your  Most Obedient Servant,
Peter  

 
In a message dated 1/11/2012 3:14:11 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
pipecreek1430 at yahoo.com writes:

Esteemed  GDG Member Contributes:
One of the few times  a line of KIA's was  found, is associated with the 
attack by Iverson's brigade on July 1.
The  next day, a Confederate artilleryman counted 79 NC soldiers dead, 
lined up as  in a line of battle.
They were killed on the first volley.  That is  why after the war, some 
survivors wrote an epitaph for
Iverson's Brigade at  Gettysburg, " Unwarned, and  unlead,  Iverson's 
brigade moved forth  to their doom.
Many NC widows and orphans were left to rue the rashness of  that hour."

Nancy  Householder



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From: Tom  Barrett <tbarrett21 at cox.net>
To: 'GDG' <gettysburg at arthes.com>  
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 10:15 AM
Subject: Re: GDG- skirmish  line vs line of battle

Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
Likely the  only chance you would see of a line of KIA's like that is if a
line of  battle received a "well delivered volley" (or maybe a canister
round, but  more likely the former...).  Otherwise, it could be the result  
of
ground fought over a number of times.  As you know, most casualties  were
wounded, not killed outright.  That many killed outright, in a  line, would
not be a common occurrence.

Regards,

TB   

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From: gettysburg-bounces at arthes.com  [mailto:gettysburg-bounces at arthes.com]
On Behalf Of keith  mackenzie
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 9:38 AM
To: GDG
Subject:  Re: GDG- skirmish line vs line of battle

Esteemed GDG Member  Contributes:
OK, I understood the principle, a little dim on the mechanics  but both
explanations cannot fail to help achieve a greater understanding.  Now, In
(both)you're considered opinion, are the bodies in the "Harvest of  Death"
(HoD, for future ref) more likely indicative of a line of battle, or  a
skirmish line? the spacing between the bodies may not prove anything,  but
does it disprove anything?

Thanks for jumping in. Don't  jump out now, I sense a breakthrough.

K.

"Hello! I'm  The Doctor."
(Dr.  Who)



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From:  "CWMHTours at aol.com" <CWMHTours at aol.com>
Esteemed GDG Member  Contributes:
Gary-

In your excellent description you do omit the  principle of the  two....

There are two different  purposes.

In a line of battle the intention is to heavily engage  and  assault the 
enemy with all the forces you can bring to  bear.  You are  committing all
the 
forces that you can bring  to bear with a face-to-face  confrontation at
close 
quarters. in  order to achieve victory.

Whereas.... a skirmish line is meant for the  skirmishers to  not 
excessively risk themselves when possible but to  perhaps take advantage  of
defensive 
advantages to protect  themselves while engaging the enemy.  The 
skirmishers' goal is not to  overwhelm the enemy forces but to harrass,  
slow
down, or 
even  stop the progress of the enemy.  A skirmisher,  even when spaced  
some 
10 ft apart from the others can take advantage of such  things  as trees 
and 
rocks.

A line of battle is simply out there to assault  and accept  loses as part 
of the cost.

That is the big  difference and it hasn't been mentioned much  in the GDG.

It's  about time I fixed this problem.

;-)  !!!

Your  Most  Obedient Servant,
Peter



In a message dated 1/10/2012  11:31:15 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
durangoks at hotmail.com  writes:

Esteemed  GDG Member Contributes:

In a skrimish  line the soldiers are 10 feet to  10 yards apart.  In a line 
of  battle soldiers are lined up almost  shoulder to shoulder.  That  said, 
not every soldier in a line is killed.  so just because there  is spacing 
between the men does not prove anything.  

Gary  McGinnis                   
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