GDG- skirmish line vs line of battle

[CWMHTours at aol.com]

No- you are right.  I don't see any either.  I agree  with you.
 
I DO see some that look rather low- do you?
 
Whether that was "natural" and no one touched them and whether  somebody 
might have gone thru their pockets  moving them in the process is  a mystery.
 
I think it is hard too be too conclusive from the W.F.  fotos.
 
Your  Most Obedient Servant,
Peter  

 
In a message dated 1/11/2012 2:32:19 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
CTJoyce at spearwilderman.com writes:

Esteemed  GDG Member Contributes:
I don't see any pulled down pants on these  guys....

-----Original Message-----
From:  gettysburg-bounces at arthes.com
[mailto:gettysburg-bounces at arthes.com] On  Behalf Of CWMHTours at aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 2:18  PM
To: gettysburg at arthes.com
Subject: Re: GDG- skirmish line vs line of  battle

Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
Kerry-

Your questions  RE: the uniforms are excellent.

As we know from the Rose farm, etc,  Rebs wearing Yank clothes  were
common.

We have to view these  pix in B&W.  I don't know about  you but it makes
it  
harder for me to figger out what's going on.

W. F. makes no  comments about any kind of identifying  insignia, which
if 
there  were some would make a difference.

Plus I am not convinced that whoever  these soldiers were it is  very 
possible they could have crossed and  recrossed the field many  times.

We also know, from W.F., that  bodies bloat.  In other  fotos you see
pants 
pulled down to  the knees when these bodies were  dragged.  If the  bodies

have not been dragged it would appear that burst  pants  would stay
around the 
waist level.  

I don't know about you  but it does not seem that all the pants  are up 
around the waist.  

John Grim and I wanna see you and a whole buncha GDG-ers down   with us
on 
2/12/12.   Are you coming?  I will see that  somehow  you suffer in some 
painful way if you don't.  This will  be way cool-   you'll get to eat
chili with  
John.

Your  Most Obedient Servant,
Peter   


In a message dated 1/11/2012 2:00:33 P.M. Eastern Standard  Time,  
bluzdad at yahoo.com writes:

Esteemed  GDG Member  Contributes:
Good points. I'm not having a hard time picturing  it,  haveing just been

there. Are we sure that those in the background  are  Union casualties?
My eyes 
aren't what they used to be, and  they were never  that good. I'm not 
overjoyed with these new glasses  either, truth be told.  
K.

"Hello! I'm The  Doctor."
(Dr.   Who)


________________________________
From: Charles T.  Joyce  <CTJoyce at spearwilderman.com>
To: GDG  <gettysburg at arthes.com>  
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 1:39  PM
Subject: Re: GDG- skirmish  line vs line of battle

Esteemed  GDG Member Contributes:
According to  Hartwig's series, Major Biddle  of the 121st PA reported
that his regiment  received "a crushing fire"  from the 52d NC of
Pettigrew's Brigade, and lost  14 KIA on July 1 on  East McPherson Ridge.
The 20th NYSM, on the immediate  left, lost 24  KIA, most, again, in the
fight on the Ridge.

I would  submit  that description and those numbers are consistent with
what we see  in  these photographs.

Note also that 121st "changed front to the  left",  and it also appears
that the bodies in the far distance are  facing in that  direction.

-----Original  Message-----
From:   gettysburg-bounces at arthes.com
[mailto:gettysburg-bounces at arthes.com]  On  Behalf Of John Lawrence
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 10:19  AM
To:  GDG
Subject: Re: GDG- skirmish line vs line of  battle

Esteemed GDG  Member Contributes:
Given the  concentration of the bodies, it could have  been shell also,
perhaps  among  stragglers.
Regards,
Jack

cameron2 at optimum.net   wrote:

>Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
><<  OK,  I  understood the principle, a little dim on the mechanics  but
both  explanations cannot fail to help achieve a greater  understanding.
Now, In  (both)you're considered opinion, are the  bodies in the "Harvest
of Death"  (HoD, for future ref) more likely  indicative of a line of
battle, or a  skirmish line? the spacing  between the bodies may not
prove
anything, but  does it disprove  anything?  >>
>
>
>I'm inclined  to think  that the number and concentration of bodies is
more indicative of   casualties sustained by a heavily engaged line of
battle.  But  there  are so many unknowns that it's difficult to say with
any   certainty.
>
>
>Jim   Cameron
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