GDG- NPs & Slavery

Bob Huddleston huddleston.r at comcast.net
Tue Jan 3 12:49:49 CST 2012


I was unaware that Lincoln went to war with the slave states. Silly me I thought it was the slave states that went to war with Lincoln & the Black Republicans.

Tom Ryan <pennmardel at mchsi.com> wrote:

>Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
>Sorry, Dennis.  Your approach to this is a little too pedantic for my
>sensibilities.  I prefer to emphasize why Lincoln went to war with the
>South, not what was the underlying cause for secession.
>
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: gettysburg-bounces at arthes.com
>[mailto:gettysburg-bounces at arthes.com]On Behalf Of Dennis Lawrence
>Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 1:15 PM
>To: GDG
>Subject: Re: GDG- NPs & Slavery
>
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>Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
>At 12:03 PM 1/3/2012, you wrote:
>>Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
>><<No slavery, no secession  ,  no secession no war.  Those are
>>unassailable parts of how the war began.>>
>>
>>That implies that secession could not have taken place except for the issue
>>of slavery.  It also implies that the North would have gone to war over
>>secession regardless of why it came about.
>
>No, it does not imply anything.  It is simply stating the historical
>facts.  There may be alternatives that you would like to explore ,
>but these are the historical facts, not implications.
>
>
>>It is true, however, that slavery was the motivation for secession
>>in this case.
>
>And that is the only case that is being discussed.  Historically
>secession was caused by slavery.  That led to war.  There's really no
>other way to look at it without linguistic gymnastics
>
>>   It is also true that Lincoln did not go to war over the slavery
>>issue.
>But he went to war to save the Union, and that became a war to end
>slavery.  That is historical fact as well.
>   That needs to be explored and it can only be done by looking at
>how secession was caused by slavery that eventually led to the war
>being fought to end slavery.
>
>
>>The point is what should and should not be presented to the visitor's at
>>Gettysburg.  I happen to lean more to the preservation of the Union side.
>
>I do not have any issue with those who want to limit or change or
>want more or less on  slavery in the visitor center.  To each his own.
>
>My only concern is the argument that slavery was not somehow the
>cause of the war when  clearly it was the key point.
>
>.  Whether not Lincoln should have could have or would have
>chosen  something besides war is not the point.  War was the result
>of secession that was caused by slavery
> >>>>>>
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> >>>>>>
>We perceive, uneasily , that slavery somehow was there at the
>constitutional beginning, liken unbidden, malevolent spirit at a
>festive celebration; the fairy tale witch who was not invited to the
>christening but who came anyway, and in an act; of spite left the
>curse on the child.  William M. Wiecek.
>
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